{"id":50143,"date":"2026-05-08T02:51:21","date_gmt":"2026-05-08T02:51:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/agooka.com\/news\/business\/musk-v-altman-evidence-shows-what-microsoft-executives-thought-of-openai\/"},"modified":"2026-05-08T02:51:21","modified_gmt":"2026-05-08T02:51:21","slug":"musk-v-altman-evidence-shows-what-microsoft-executives-thought-of-openai","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/agooka.com\/news\/business\/musk-v-altman-evidence-shows-what-microsoft-executives-thought-of-openai\/","title":{"rendered":"Musk v. Altman Evidence Shows What Microsoft Executives Thought of OpenAI"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Save StorySave this storySave StorySave this story<\/p>\n<p>OpenAI\u2019s relationship with Microsoft, its longtime investor and cloud partner, has grown increasingly complicated over the years as the ChatGPT-maker has grown into a behemoth competitor.<\/p>\n<p>But Microsoft executives had reservations about sending additional funding to OpenAI as far back as 2018 when it was just a small nonprofit research lab, according to emails between more than a dozen Microsoft executives, including CEO Satya Nadella, shown in a federal court on Thursday during the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/tag\/musk-altman-trial\/\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Musk v. Altman<\/em> trial.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The emails show how Microsoft, at the time, wavered over what has since been held up as one of the most successful corporate partnerships in tech history. Several Microsoft executives said in the emails their visits to OpenAI did not indicate any imminent breakthroughs in developing artificial general intelligence. In 2017, much of OpenAI\u2019s work was focused on building AI systems that could play video games, which showed early signs of success. But OpenAI needed five times more computing power than it had originally secured from Microsoft to continue the project.<\/p>\n<p>Microsoft worried that not providing support could push OpenAI into the arms of Amazon, the world\u2019s dominant cloud computing provider at the time. Roughly 18 months after the emails were sent, Microsoft announced a landmark $1 billion investment in OpenAI after the lab created a for-profit arm that provided the tech giant with the potential to generate a return of $20 billion.<\/p>\n<p>Microsoft declined to comment.<\/p>\n<p>Elon Musk\u2019s attorneys introduced the emails to show Microsoft\u2019s evolving relationship with OpenAI. After Musk reached out to Nadella, Microsoft in 2016 agreed to provide $60 million worth of cloud computing services to OpenAI at a steep discount. OpenAI consumed the services twice as fast as expected.<\/p>\n<p>The email chain kicked off on August 11, 2017, with Nadella reaching out to OpenAI CEO Sam Altman to congratulate the lab on winning a video game competition using AI to mimic a human player. Ten days later, Altman responded seeking $300 million worth of Microsoft Azure cloud computing services.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe could figure how to fund some of it but not that much,\u201d Altman wrote, apparently seeking a financial handout and engineering help. \u201cI think it will be the most impressive thing yet in the history of AI.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Nadella asked four lieutenants for their input on how to respond three days later. Microsoft\u2019s AI team saw \u201cno value in engaging,\u201d according to a response from Jason Zander, Microsoft\u2019s executive vice president, that also documented how other teams felt. Its research team thought its own work was \u201cmore advanced,\u201d while the public relation teams didn\u2019t like the idea of supporting a group pushing the idea of \u201cmachines beating humans.\u201d Ultimately, Zander suggested that Azure would benefit from associating with Musk and Altman but that he wouldn\u2019t want to \u201ctake a complete bath,\u201d or large financial hit, in doing so.<\/p>\n<p>A subsequent analysis showed that Microsoft stood to lose about $150 million over several years if it provided the services Altman wanted, according to one email. &quot;Unless he can help us draw a more direct networking effect with OpenAI -&gt; Microsoft business value, we will wind up having to pass,\u201d Zander wrote.<\/p>\n<p>The thread went dark for several months, but was revived on January 10, 2018, with an email to Nadella from Brett Tanzer\u2014who signed off his emails with \u201cBrettt\u201d\u2014then a director on the Azure cloud unit. Altman had told Tanzer that OpenAI could license its gaming AI to Microsoft\u2019s Xbox video game division in exchange for \u201c$35-50 million in Azure Credits.\u201d But Xbox couldn\u2019t commit that much money. Microsoft planned to tell Altman there would be no more discounts after that March, per Tanzer\u2019s email.<\/p>\n<p>Nadella forwarded the email to 15 Microsoft executives later that day, asking for their thoughts on OpenAI and sharing some of his own.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOverall I can\u2019t tell what research they are doing and how if shared with us it could help us get ahead,\u201d said Nadella. \u201cFrom what Elon is telling everyone \u2026 he feels Open AI is at verge of some big AGI breakthroughs \u2026 They clearly are pushing AI at a level none of our first party or third parties are.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Microsoft chief technology officer Kevin Scott responded that he wasn\u2019t sure what the company would get out of an incremental investment in OpenAI. However, he said, there could be some PR downsides associated with not funding them, \u201cand having them storm off to Amazon in a huff and shit-talk us and Azure on the way out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m highly skeptical of an imminent breakthrough in AGI,\u201d Scott said. \u201cIMO, they\u2019re treating us like a bucket of undifferentiated GPUs, which isn\u2019t interesting for us at all. They are not out there saying \u2018there\u2019s this critical piece of research that we can only do on Azure because of its technical differentiation.\u2019 If they were, that could be interesting marketing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Zander responded the same day, reiterating Scott\u2019s concerns about Amazon.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy worst case scenario is having them ditch Azure for AWS, as Kevin says bad-mouth us on the way over, and then land with some big new innovation that is shared with our competitors,\u201d said Zander. (Over the past few months, OpenAI committed to spend $138 billion on Amazon cloud computing services, and Amazon agreed to invest $15 billion to $50 billion in OpenAI.)<\/p>\n<p>The next day, Microsoft\u2019s chief scientific officer, Eric Horvitz, responded, expressing similar reservations about funding OpenAI while commending the team for sharing its research. \u201cI\u2019d like to see Microsoft Research folks and others at Microsoft work collaboratively with OpenAI without the need to supply many millions of dollars of support\u2014unless we can identify other broader ecosystem or relationship benefits that have expected value somewhere near the dollars being requested,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>Microsoft told Altman that no team inside the company would commit to sponsoring OpenAI. The duo later rekindled their relationship, though with Microsoft becoming OpenAI\u2019s most prolific fiscal sponsor from 2019 through 2023, a period over which it committed $13 billion in cash and cloud computing credits. Musk\u2019s lawsuit against OpenAI accuses Microsoft of aiding and abetting unauthorized use of the billionaire\u2019s donations to the AI lab. Musk contends that Microsoft helped OpenAI develop a moneymaking machine that corrupted its nonprofit principles.<\/p>\n<p>But apart from a few text messages\u2014including Nadella ghosting then OpenAI interim CEO Mira Murati as she sought advice in her new role\u2014and the newly released email thread, Microsoft has largely been an afterthought in the trial. 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